The Steves discuss the 2009 reboot, Friday the 13th, along with what's making them happy in pop culture today!
What's making us happy?
Movie Discussion
Ending- Any music or audio clips were borrowed from the original source material.
The Steves discuss the 2009 reboot, Friday the 13th, along with what's making them happy in pop culture today!
What's making us happy?
Movie Discussion
Ending- Any music or audio clips were borrowed from the original source material.
Hello, returning Happys and new listeners. This is Steve Bennett
Stephen:Martin. And this is Steven Martin Bennett, and welcome to a lifetime
Steve:of happiness. The podcast where we take you on our journey through some of the movies, shows, and other bits of pop culture that are helping to keep us happy, while hopefully bring a smile to your face along the way. And we
Stephen:are heading to Camp Crystal Lake today as we continue a spring full of reboots and remakes with the 2009 reboot of Friday the
Steve:13th. Yes. Before we get ready for camp what's been making you happy? My life. So
Stephen:I just finished the third in the initial Bayonetta trilogy. So Bayonetta three. I just finished that and it was really good, I would say after playing all of them that the second one is my favorite. And it definitely looks like we're moving in a new direction for. The fourth. But it's a fun series. It's very if you've ever played a platinum game, it's very platinum. So be ready for a lots and lots of action, but, It's a lot of fun and the voice acting is amazing. Excellent. What's been making you happy? My darling. Sasha Colby, of course. Our Queen.
Steve:Sasha Colby. Yes. We had drag race season 15 finale and after a very, very, very long season, although I don't it in the end, even though they had more queens, pretty much a queen went home every week. I wonder if it was any more episodes LA than last season or just as many, or.
Stephen:I honestly don't know. It was probably just as many though. Yeah. But,
Steve:It all ended with Sasha winning the Crown and I love that for her. She was the clear and obvious choice for me. Oh yeah. Absolutely. I love Antra personally, and she'll kill in all stars, but you can't compete against Sasha. It's just like an all winner season. Oh
Stephen:yeah. And I do have to give mistress some credit of all of the big girls that. Competed. She is probably the most well-rounded and polished
Steve:of any of them. Yes. Only she was a little bit nicer. Yes. And in her congenial era. A little bit sooner.
Stephen:Yes. Oh, but. Let's talk some Friday the 13th. History
Steve:sounds good. I mean, I grew up knowing about the series, but I wasn't too involved with it for those Not in The Know. Friday the 13th was the original released in May of 1980, and it started a franchise that has 12 slasher films, a TV series, novels, comic books, video games, and Ty, me. Yes. And it was the most successful horror franchise until Halloween came out on top with the 2018 reboot. Yes.
Stephen:Because the Halloween 2018 movie made like$250 million. Yes. So it's gonna be hard for anybody to catch up to that.
Steve:Exactly. But yeah, I mean, I remember hearing and like knowing about who Jason was and even like knowing that in the first one that it was the mom from like, But if you had asked me like to list my top five or top 10 horror franchises that existed, like it wouldn't have been on my personal list. What
Stephen:about you? Well, so it's kind of interesting that you know, like the Marvel versus DC debate today. Yeah. It was kind of a Freddie versus Jason debate back in the
Steve:day. That is funny that they ultimately squared off then. Yeah.
Stephen:And so we were kind of a nightmare on Elm Street. I saw some of the Friday, the 13th movies. I didn't see the original until I was in my twenties. Yeah. And I have, you know, thoughts on how that one could have been better. It's a fun series.
Steve:Yeah. I mean, I know that for me, we, we did watch through them. We, we
Stephen:watched through all of them, including Jason X. Yes.
Steve:And so after doing that, I don't know whether it's because they didn't age well, but, and I don't have the nostalgia to like long for it, but like I didn't like that half as much as I like my re watches of like Nightmare in Om Street and Chucky and all the other ones.
Stephen:So the first four Friday the 13th movies, Hold up better than everything after
Steve:that. Yeah. Well, let's talk about where Jason has been before we figure out where it'll go next. I mean, the last time we saw him, he squared off against Freddie in 2000 threes, Freddie versus Jason. And so tell us what you
Stephen:think. So the Freddie movies had moved into kind of a full horror camp by Jason X, or as I call it, Jason, in Space Lake Nightmare Long Street. It no longer had the scare. Fans were sticking around for Jason and the brutal kills. Mm-hmm. Freddie versus Jason was like a Marvel DC crossover. It's fun, but it's not likely to happen very often, and both Freddy and Jason deserve to be doing their own thing. Outside of any crossover movies. So where The Nightmare Remake Reboot was attempting to start fresh, this one acknowledged the past and was ready to take a new step forward while still holding onto their history some
Steve:wise. Yeah, I mean, could, could you have continued the story after the end of Freddie versus Jason? Maybe,
Stephen:but honestly, I don't think. The best thing to do would be to treat it how DC does with their Batman films like Dark Knight, like a
Steve:duo here, a trilogy
Stephen:there? No. Like Dark Knight versus Batman and Justice League. Oh, both of them are Batman, but not the same Batman. So that like Freddie versus Jason was Jason, but not the same Jason from all of the other Fred Friday movies. Jason and the Reboot would be the one from the other movies.
Steve:Interesting. Yeah. Well, mark Wheaton's original pitch to you new line was to reboot the series with a new part five, ignoring the original new beginning and everything that happened after while featuring a prologue showing Jason VREs witnessing the murder of his. The characters who come to Crystal Lake then know of Jason as they did in Friday the 13th parts, two 3D and four before. He is not yet supernatural like he was at six. Yeah. Or hadn't gone to space or become a Demonn worm or anything like that, right? Mm-hmm. So to further suit the needs of a reboot, Wheaton had four. He's in the. In first the canvas bag he was in, in part two, only to replace it with the hockey mask halfway through the
Stephen:film. And honestly, that's the way I thought of it. This was if one through four had existed previously and the this one was the next in line. Kind of like how Halloween 2018 said, okay, the first one happened and now we're here. Or H two O said one and two happened and now we're here. This honestly played to me as if one through four exist. And this was five. That's how the lore
Steve:worked. And so in the, in your, in this theory, the prequel that we see in the beginning of the mom is dying just a flashback of the first movie. Yes. And then that happened between or after the first movie and then the other movies happened, and then this one happens.
Stephen:So the, in the part that we saw with the mom, We saw on screen. Yeah. At the end of the first movie, Jason also comes up out of the water and grabs the girl. Yeah. Leading us to believe that he had been alive the whole time. Yeah. So this kind of showed us a scene of him finding his mother's body that we didn't see in the original movie and they re-shot it. So it was a cleaner. Cool and more easily to be seen.
Steve:Yes. Well, it was released on February 13th, 2009, which was a Friday the 13th, as it always should be. It was directed by Marcus Npe and produced by Sean Cunningham and had the same team behind Nightmare in Elm Street's. Reboot from Platinum Dunes of Michael Bay, Andrew Form, and Brad
Stephen:Fuller. According to co-writer Damien and Shannon, the character of Jason Borhes was Reenvisioned Reenvisioned as more territorial like a hunter. Someone who doesn't kill people at random, but is gonna defend his territory from anyone evading it and in the most horrible manner. Director Marcus Nial. Similar. Similar, oh, that's a hard word for. Similarly claims the film shows new aspects of Jason's personality. Derek, me says His portrayal of Jason as a survivalist defending his territory is partially inspired by the character of John Rambo and First Blood. I don't know that, so that's a Sylvester Stallone movie. He had the Rambo movies and then he had. The Rocky movies. The first Rambo movie was called First Blood, and then it was called Rambo First Blood Part two. Gotcha. Kind of like how the first Indiana Jones movie is just called Raiders of the Lost Ark, and then they add Indiana Jones after
Steve:that. Gotcha. Well, funny story. The producer Michael Bay, allegedly walked out in the movie premiere stating the movie featured too much sex,
Stephen:which is funny because of all the slasher flicks of the eighties that had large followings. The Friday movies are most known for the most nudity and sex, and that was how Jason got his reputation for going after Immoral Teens.
Steve:Yes. Well, this movie had a budget of 19 million, which seems cheap considering, right? Absolutely. And at a box office of 92.7 million, which financially means it made money. But was this a success for fans and critics alike?
Stephen:So that's another one where it has fans and critics conflicted. Critics hated it. Fans said some say that it earns its place along with the other Friday movies. Some were mad at, didn't have a supernatural Jason, and some didn't care for Amanda Reti or the mommy lookalike storyline. But just kind of like how after a decade the Nightmare remake has been getting more respect. There have been a lot of people looking back at this movie going, maybe we were too
Steve:harsh. Yes, and it's stars. Jared Padalecki, Daniel Ban Baker, Aaron, you, Amanda, rti, Travis Van Weel, and Derek Mes. Do any of these names or faces mean anything to you?
Stephen:Jar Padalecki is from all 47 Seasons of Supernatural. Yes, that sounds about right. And Daniel Pana Baker is from the Flash TV series. She was one of Team Flash and she became the Chill or
Steve:frost. Oh, I liked her. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even notice that.
Stephen:Yeah, I, there's some, she is a likable person in general. Yeah. And like here and in Flash, I'm always like, I like you. I think she's probably, at least I hope so. A good person and real life too. Yeah. Because that's how she comes across on screen.
Steve:Yeah. Now what happened in this movie? Oh,
Stephen:goodness. So, as you said On June 13th, 1980, a young Jason Voorhees watches as his mother Pamela beheaded by a camp counselor who was trying to escape Mrs. Voorhis murder spree around Camp Crystal Lake.
Steve:Yeah, and this is pretty much the entire film's movie, like how it all ends, right?
Stephen:Yeah, pretty much. It's the last 10 minutes of the movie condensed down to like three minutes. Yeah. In the first movie. What's interesting is that we never see Mrs. Vo. Till the end when she's revealed as the killer. Mm-hmm. Like she wasn't even a character in the movie till she was revealed as the killer. So all of her exposition at the end, which they replayed here. Yeah. Was pretty much all the full story the movie had and the fun side note, the actress that played the original Pamela of Voorhis in the 90 said, I really feel like you should have. Somewhere else in the movie, like the kids go to a diner in the beginning. Yeah. They're like, have me in the diner, giving them an evil side eye or something like, but the, on the first time we see her on screen, it's weird is the end. So, It's one of those like we were talking about in the murder mystery
Steve:where I like it when the whodunit is someone I know and not just someone off the street. Exactly. Now Jason's still a child who drowned but didn't die from drowning, as it turns out. Finds the locket his mother was wearing that, his pictures of her from when she was younger and the machete that was used to kill his mother and deit. He hears his mother's voice say that he must kill for her, kill for mommy, and punish them for what they've done.
Stephen:Oh, Somebody has samami issues. Yes. Forever.
Steve:Now, a almost 30 years later, a group of friends, Wade, Richie, Mike, Whitney, and Amanda arrive at Crystal Lake on a camping trip with a little known side quest to search from marijuana growing in the woods. Yeah. Two
Stephen:of them knew that there's supposed to be a huge crop of marijuana. Everyone else thinks that they're camping.
Steve:Yes. That night after finding the old cabins from the camp, they recap and flesh out the story from the opening going hunting for marijuana. One of the guys runs into Jason in his burlaps sack. Look who? Which is creepy. Yes. Who kills him quickly and violently. Whitney and her boyfriend find an abandoned home and wonder if a homeless person
Stephen:lives there. No, because then they wouldn't be homeless, which we both like thought of and decided
Steve:immediately at the same time. Yeah. Yes, and it's quickly becomes obvious. This was Jason's home with his mother. Yeah. Now, have you ever explored an area that a local urban legend was based on?
Stephen:Yes. So spring Heights is a camp in my hometown of Spencer, and there was an old caretaker's cottage known as Hicks Kaan. Mr. Hick had been the caretaker of the camp, and the story says that he killed his family and hung him. In the, well that was right outside the house. And you know, if you look down into the, well, there's rotted wood that looks like it was something holding it up. And there's bits of rope in there and stuff, and there's stains in the attic of the cabin. Yeah. And whether any of it is true or just a story used to scare campers, it became local legend and told so many times that anybody that has gone to camp. Speaks it as if it's true. Yeah.
Steve:I mean, I got into like my love for horror. Like I always was drawn to it, but I grew into it as I got older. Like I grew up 15, 20 minutes from Amityville, right. And never went to the Amityville house. Really? Like it just wasn't a thing. Like I've been to haunted places, but it's mostly like with you where it's like tour guide. They're like, that place is haunted. And we're like, Ooh. But like I've never really explored like a haunt like that, and I think that be cool. We'll have to
Stephen:do one of those because I've told you about the time. My friend Samantha and I spent the night in a haunted church rectory.
Steve:Oh yeah. I wanna be like, so terrified that I pee myself a little bit. Oh, now they mentioned how much Whitney looks like Jason's mother. What a coincidence that Shirley won't come into play.
Stephen:Also, what I liked when they were look going through the homeless person's house Yes. Is that there's a collection of camp whistles that can I only, that can I, that I can only. Are trophies from dead camp counselors that Jason and his mom took care of,
Steve:must have. Now meanwhile, Amanda and Richie are having sex in their tents, so they obviously get murdered because a horny Jason isn't angry. Jason. True story. The guy gets stuck in a bear trap while Amanda burnt to death in a sleeping bag over a campfire. Okay, that. Was
Stephen:cool and awful. Like I don't know what it is about people burning to death, but that's right up there with my list of, oh God, please
Steve:know. I know. And it was so effective. And you didn't even need to see it uhhuh like inside the bag or anything, like it was just a way to keep it minimal. Yeah. Well, very effective. So a plus on that, I'd say that was my favorite death of the movie.
Stephen:With Whitney. With just Whitney and her boyfriend left, Jason goes after them in his house. He decides to play the floors lava by jamming his machete up through the floorboards, trying to imal anyone that's on the floor. Boyfriend gets stabbed multiple times. Then Jason breaks through the floor and drags the boyfriend down to kill him. Jason then chases Whitney through the woods, and were led to believe that he kills her.
Steve:Yes. And do you wish that any of these groups survived or were they just trophy cannon fodder? Okay,
Stephen:so Whitney and her boyfriend were the only ones that. Actual character personalities. The others were just trophy cannon fodder. So Whitney and her boyfriend could have survived and been real characters. The rest were just screaming, kill me, kill me, kill
Steve:me. Yes. We now get the title card, which doesn't appear until 25 minutes into the movie, making it one of the longest prologues in any horror film. And that
Stephen:is kind of crazy. It
Steve:doesn't, it almost feels like a part one. Like the way that I know you read it, like all of the other movies make sense and happened in the world. Like the way that I read this is, this is like retelling one through four of like, like the one was basically told in the opening like three minutes. Yeah. And then this is going on to like kind of what happens next, but like it progresses. Yeah. I didn't see it that way. Well, that's. Now, six weeks later, Whitney's brother, clay Miller, played by Supernatural guy, arrives by the lake to search for her and has the pleasure of running into Trent, the douche bag, his quasi girlfriend. Question Mark. Jenna?
Stephen:Yeah. The girl next door type where we can't understand why she is potentially with Trent. Yes. And friends. Chelsea, a girl who just wants to be bad played. Bad girl. Pop Singer Will
Steve:Ford. Well, that was the joke. Her song was, I just wanna be bad. Oh, I didn't wanna be bad. It makes me feel so good.
Stephen:Yeah. You know how much of a will afford fan I am. Then I had
Steve:her single and I definitely played it a lot. I was like, I'm gonna be bad. Just like Willa Ford.
Stephen:There was Bree who just wants to have fun and be Trent's side. And Chewy, the Stoner Nolan, the dude bro boyfriend of Chelsea and Lawrence, who wants us to know that he's more than just the token black eye. Yes. And he has the most potential of any of them characterized to not be. Almost.
Steve:Yeah. But yes. Other than Clay who we're like, that's an actor we know. So he'll probably be something. Yeah. Any other standouts right off the batch For, honestly,
Stephen:for this new crew, Jenna immediately let us know that she's a character that we're allowed to like, And the others are making sure that we know that there are stereotypes and will not make it to the end of the movie. And Trent is such an awful person that you can't forget him because he makes such a huge presence of himself and you're immediately wishing for his
Steve:death. Yes. And while they're both going to the same place, they don't each know it, but we do. But there's also a delay because Clay gets pulled over by detective bracket who's. Who gives'em a hard time for not trusting them when they say they can't find his sister and she's not here. And to give up looking.
Stephen:Detective Brock's role was filled by Richard Bergy just 12 hours before he was to shoot his scenes. And we know Richard Bergy from Desperate Housewives and he was a standup guy there. And yeah, and he's known to be a quality actor, so I buy. Being able to step in last minute.
Steve:Yes. And in the opening scenes, Whitney felt guilty that she was leaving her mother at home, though she had a caregiver while her mom was battling cancer. And it turns out that their mother died in the last 45 days. And Whitney not showing up for the funeral is not something she would do. Absolutely. Now at the cabin, we have more time to look deep into the teens character, both who they truly are uniquely as individuals, as well as the inner and complex depths of their inner working relationships with one another. Absolutely. Just kidding. It's fluff about them getting high in fucking each other. Yep.
Stephen:One thing this movie definitely has going against it is that in order there for there to be enough kill, They have to have more characters, but in doing so, there isn't enough time to flesh them out. So we get many caricatures that we don't care about. So the deaths are just entertaining and nothing we feel bad about. That's one of the differences with the nightmare on Elm Street movies. Yeah, because like, okay, with these, if Jason finds you and hunts you, most likely you're. In the nightmare movies, you have a chance to wake up. Yeah. And so you can interact with Freddy multiple times. Usually. Don't get that in these movies.
Steve:No, not so much. Now Clay goes to an old farmhouse to ask about Whitney being missing. She ain't
Stephen:missing, she's dead. People go missing around here. They gone for good. Outsiders come, they don't know where to walk. They bring trouble. We just want to be left alone. And so does he. Now, I love adding to the lore that yes, they all know about Jason, but none of them want to die, so they just live their lives and let him live his. What happens to outsiders is their problem. So if you knew there was a mass murderer living on the same lake as you, but if you didn't bother him, he would let you live. Would you stay or would you not wanna risk it? And you'd.
Steve:I would stay if it helped lower my property taxes, I would think that it would, I think you'd be able to get a great deal on a house if your next door neighbor was Jason Voorhees,
Stephen:and you know, you could. Call people and be like, Hey, you wanna meet me for a picnic at the lake? Make sure to go down by the south side and take that trail. It's easily marked. I promise. I'll meet you down there. And just so that they get killed and their bodies are never
Steve:found. Yeah, exactly. I think I see, I see actually some pros here. Actually I'm starting to did Did you go into this thinking it was an obvious No, I did, but no. No. And actually there's some perks to having it. It's like having like a bigger, scarier guard dog for your neighborhood, the neighbor. Imagine having Jason on your neighborhood watch. You'd have the safest neighborhood. So
Stephen:Jason is always on night patrol, everyone. That's taken care of. Yes, exactly. Yeah. No, but I do love this. So it is like those first four movies have happened and they're all like, we just leave him alone. We just leave him alone. Y'all are the ones that are bringing this to him. Yeah.
Steve:And the friends are having fun. Trent, a buzz killed douche bag and we can't wait for him to die. Jenna appears to be dating Trent, but it doesn't appear to be serious or that it's been going on for a while. We're not sure or that either one is casually invested in it. Clay visits Trent Cabin and Jenna agrees to help him search for Whitney on the other side, the lake. Despite trans lack of enthusiasm with this plan on the way Clay talks to his sister and his guilt for leaving her behind when he left. Now as much as Trent is a douche bag and I hate him and I can't wait for Jason to kill him, cuz you know that he will be dead. Yeah. At some point in time, how would you feel if some hot rando on a motorcycle knocked on our door and was like, can you come help me look for my sister? And I was like, peace out babe. Yeah. I don't think I'd
Stephen:care for that part. But even before Jenna goes off with him, Trent is a dick for no reason to clay twice now. Oh yeah. Yeah. Anything that would happen between Clay and Jen and Janelle is karma for Trent being. And the way he talks to people, including Jenna. She seems like a good person and I'm not sure, and I'm not really seeing what draws her to him. And the more I've thought about it, the more I'm starting to think of maybe he invited her because he's trying to make something happen with her.
Steve:Or like, I mean, did we ever see them kiss her, get physical? I'm almost wondering whether they're childhood best friends and she's just putting up with his dickery.
Stephen:It could be the closest they had to anything. Romantic or
Steve:was in the opening or the near the beginning, I would say. Like when they
Stephen:were sitting outside by the tree. Yeah. And that's about it.
Steve:Yes. Now as they searched, Jason kills that neighbor who was so polite to the guy earlier while he gets sexual with the mannequin, he lost his virginity too, taking the opportunity to upgrade it. His mask to the hockey mask net we all love in fear.
Stephen:In this movie, Jason wears both the legendary hockey mask and the burlaps. Although neither of those appeared in the original Friday the 13th because it was Pamela Voorhis. The burlap sack was the first mask worn by Jason in Friday the 13th, part two in 1981, and the hockey mask did not appear until the final third of Friday the 13th, part three.
Steve:I love the burlap sack. And the hockey mask, both for their own reasons, but the Burlaps sack now just makes me think of Chainsaw Guy and Resident Evil four. Yes.
Stephen:And it, it also is kind of reminiscent to the strangers.
Steve:Yeah. Now Trenton, his friends continue to get drunk while Jason goes after Chelsea and Nolan as they wakeboard on the lake. Nolan gets spirit in the head causing the boat to bash Chelsea in the head as she swims out away from Jason under a dock. She accidentally queefs in the bubbles alert Jason to her presence leading her to get a machete in the head. Oh, poor girl. I know that. It wasn't the Queef that did the bubbles. It was his magic bad guy. Instincts.
Stephen:Yeah. Will afford Had to learn how to wakeboard for this. Ultimately, she said doing it topless was the hardest part, but it is a Friday, the 13th movie. So unnecessary topless scenes are
Steve:required. Yes. And she had nice
Stephen:boobs. She paid good money
Steve:for them. Yes. Now Clay and Jenna searched the old crystal link. We're both on fire tonight. Clay and Jenna search the old Crystal Lake campgrounds where they see Jason hauling a body into an abandoned camp. Jason sees Clay's bag. He turns on all the power begins tearing apart the area looking for them, but they get away. Jenna and Clay run to the war and the others of how Jason and along the way almost learned that Whitney's alive and being kept under some old mining tunnels because she reminds Jason of Mommy. Whitney goes through Clay's bag and fit Jason Toss and realize he's here looking for
Stephen:her. Okay. This at this part, it's also interesting. Jason's not an idiot, like a, he's survived that long, but he's smart enough to have rigged up all the power. Yeah. And all that kind of stuff. So this is definitely like, sometimes he's portrayed as a mindless killer, but he has some hunting intelligence. Yes.
Steve:For sure. And were you surprised to find Whitney
Stephen:Alive? Yes and no. Since they didn't show us the death and these movies loved show the Gratuitous Kills, we should have known that there was a chance she was still alive. Mm-hmm. But like as it went to the credits, It just seemed like that was the end for Whitney. Yes,
Steve:I agree. And what would you rather do be killed violently but quickly by Jason or be his prisoner slash mother figure for six weeks like that?
Stephen:I'm gonna go with Prisoner since being alive means you have a chance to live and he isn't harming or abusing her like sexually. Other than keeping her handcuffed, which is physical abuse. So she seems to be in good
Steve:health. I know I just, there have been times in my life where I would've said, just take me, Jesus. Just put the machete through my head. I would fight for it. Now, I would be really upset if it was a full six weeks, cuz I have GSM and like. That time you'd
Stephen:get out just in time. I know
Steve:I have things to plan and get ready. I can't be held captive by Jason Voy. So no camping ground trips this weekend.
Stephen:Well, Jenna and Clay arrive and warn the others, but Trent and Bri are too busy having sex, and maybe that's either loud or Trent isn't Jenna's boyfriend because she doesn't seem to care what they're doing. It's weird. Chewy goes to find tools to fix Trent's family heirloom. That's also a chair where Jason finds and kills him with a long screwdriver thing before cutting the power to the house. Jason sees Bree and Trent having sex, and we know with his morality code that it means they are now marked to die. Not like they weren't already. Yes,
Steve:Lauren's goes to find Chewy and gets an ax in the back as Jason uses him as bait. But when no one cares enough to save him, he gets imp. Now, other than me, obviously, how many others in our life would you run out there to try and save? I gave this a lot of thought. Yes. Five. I would say probably around the two or three, and I'm not naming names. Me eating now. Jason then sneaks inside and Wait, hold on. I just had this image. Like I was like, obviously Remy can't get like a big old spear, but I was like, what if he got a gremlin spear in like the gremlin from the Gremlin movie with the little, like remember where they had the little crossbo that was a gremlin size? I was like, if he got a gremlin size crossbo in him, I had to run out and save him from a gremlin. So maybe three.
Stephen:I Remy was in my list of five, just
Steve:so you know. Okay, sounds good. Now Jason then sneaks inside and kills Bree silently in the bathroom. Detective Brack arrives, but gets harpooned through the eye. He didn't see that coming,
Stephen:which also makes sense that he was in two scenes in the movie. So it is okay that he only got the role a day before.
Steve:Yes. Trent Clay and Jenna escaped the cabin, but Trent has killed when he reaches the main road because he didn't trust the tow truck driver. And would you have trusted the tow truck driver? He was being really sketchy.
Stephen:At this point, yes. Yeah. Because we have no evidence that Jason can drive. Yeah. So and it's not like what we had seen with like Texas Chainsaw Massa, where there's a whole family helping leather face. So at this point I would've been. Running up there going, oh, thank God. Let me in and yeah. Go, go, go. Yeah. Or even just hopping onto the map going, just drive. Just drive. Exactly. But then when you do that, you're more likely to die. Or even if he had gotten in the truck, there could have been that hand in through the window to rip him out.
Steve:Yes, exactly. And I normally be applauding Trent's death, but I also feel bad that that poor old man has to drive off with that Dick's body impaled on the back of his. Not cool unless maybe it's that guy's thing.
Stephen:Oh, and so I definitely think the guy is a local because as soon as he stalled Jason, he started driving off, but not ridiculously fast. Not,
Steve:oh my God. A kid was just inhaled on the back of my truck fast. Not at all. It was like a, oh, that Jason's at it again. I'm just gonna keep going. Or
Stephen:Oh, I don't want him mad at me for trying to help those kids.
Steve:Yeah, exactly. Now Jason Chases Clay and Jenna back to the campgrounds where Clay discovers Jason's lair under the family house and finds his sister chain to a wall. Clay frees Whitney and all three try to escape. As Jason arrives, they finds an exit, but Jenna is killed before she escapes. And were you surprised by Jenna's death? She seemed final girlish to me, but I guess with Whitney back there can only be one.
Stephen:So I'm definitely surprised by Jenna. She wins the Helen Shivers Award for the most undeserved death scene. Mm-hmm. I totally thought she was a final girl and because, you know, we made it through several screen movies where it didn't have to be a final girl. I mean, we had Sydney and Gail. And Dewey for a while. Yeah, there's no reason it couldn't have been three. Now, I will say that whenever he impaled her, whatever he impaled her with was very, very thin. So she might have lived if Clay hadn't accidentally knocked over a lantern and starting to fire in the tunnels, which probably burned her alive because she wasn't dead yet. Well,
Steve:that's darker. I hope she died by Jason's hand. The emerge they emerge from the tunnel In an old camp bus, Jason throws clay like a ragdoll, and Whitney manages to escape. The duo make it to the barn of the former mannequin molester. Jason Corners Clay and Whitney. And just as Jason is about to put clay in a wood chipper, Whitney confuses Jason by pretending to be Pamela, then stabs him in the chest with his own machete. Clay clamps a bear trap on his shoulder and wrap chain around him and tosses the end into the wood tripper. It strangles Jason, but stops just short of cutting the top of his head to bits.
Stephen:The next morning, clay and Whitney dump Jason's quote corpse into the lake. The mask floats to the bottom. Whitney tosses the lock it in as well. It's a beautiful morning. But before they leave, Jason burst through the wooden dock and grabs Whitney as the screen fades to black.
Steve:Yeah. Now, why would they drag him out to the docks to dump his body when the wood chipper was right there? Put his brains in it. Bring his brains to bits.
Stephen:I mean, honest to goodness, his scalp was about an inch from the things. Yeah, just push it. Yeah. A little nudge. Just like we. If Lori Strode can do it, you all can do it.
Steve:Exactly. They hadn't done it yet, I guess, but now they know they can. Yeah.
Stephen:Final thoughts? So I thought it was a super enjoyable movie. I thought it was a higher quality than most of the Friday the 13th movies, especially any of. That came after the first four.
Steve:Yes. Some of them were really
Stephen:rough. Yeah. So honestly I thought it was good. I was expecting us to have more after
Steve:this. Yes. And including this remake, Jason has now officially killed over 200 people
Stephen:and he had the lead, from what I understand, until the Halloween trilogy. Right. And the first responder seen alone. Push Pushed Michael pushed Michael up.
Steve:Oh, over the end. Yeah. Yes. Now what's next?
Stephen:So, a follow up to this was slated for release on October 13th, 2017. Eight years after. Mm-hmm. And was also set to go into production in a matter of weeks. But in February of 2017, it was announced that Paramount had pulled the plug on the project. To move forward with Darren Aronofsky's horror film Mother, which failed at the box office
Steve:as well as with us. Yes. Now from a January, 2023 Collider article, because of a legal battle between the original films director, Sean S. Cunningham, and writer Victor Miller, the franchise has been in a standstill for the last number of years. Bands have recently started to see some light at the end of this horrific tunnel with the announcement that Miller was developing a Crystal Lake prequel. With Hannibal's, Brian Fuller and a 22, which seems cool,
Stephen:and Cunningham is also working on a reboot to Friday the 13th with writer Jeff Locker and director Jeremy Weiss. The trio developed the idea after working together on the upcoming horror film, the Night Driver.
Steve:Cool. So what do you hope for the series
Stephen:future? So I'm all good if they reboot the series, acknowledging the. We're the first four and then this one. So like make it like the first four that we saw in the early eighties, and then this one, and just go from there. Halloween 2018 has shown us that there's life left in the OG slasher movies. If they are handled correctly and with a consistent vision,
Steve:well we shall see how it goes. But until then, you know what? I know we can always count. Our listeners, yes, and we'd love to hear what you thought about the movie, as well as this episode by giving us an email at happy life pod gmail.com.
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Stephen:and alive.