A Lifetime of Happiness

Scream (1996)

February 24, 2021 Steve Bennet-Martin, Stephen Martin-Bennet Season 1 Episode 56
A Lifetime of Happiness
Scream (1996)
Chapters
1:44
What's Making Us Happy?
4:24
Charisma Carpenter Speaks Out
7:33
Binge and Purge: X-men, GLOW, and Fate: The Winx Saga
16:17
Scream Movie Background Info
25:27
The Birth of the Opening Kill
32:30
Meeting the Characters
42:18
Red Herrings and Honesty in Rewatches
47:18
The Final Party
59:31
Sceam 5 and the TV Show
A Lifetime of Happiness
Scream (1996)
Feb 24, 2021 Season 1 Episode 56
Steve Bennet-Martin, Stephen Martin-Bennet

The Steves discuss their favorite horror movie, Scream, as well as what is making them happy and Happy News.

Happy News and Updates:

  • Charisma Carpenter speaks out on Joss Whedon's horrific behavior on Buffy and gets support from her former castmates
  • Steve rediscovers his love of naps
  • Stephen is happy his audits are done at his day job

Binge and Purge:

  • Current X-Men Comics (Binging most, especially Hellions and Marauders, while Wolverine is an act of love to the line)
  • GLOW Season 3 (Network) - Binge- a beautiful ending to an amazing series
  • Fairy Potter... I mean Fate: The Winx Saga (Netflix)- Binge for Stephen; Purge/Watch series that did it better like Magicians and The Order first

Scream:

  • Movie background, production, and behind the scenes trivia
  • Breaking down the iconic Drew Barrymore opening scene and how it changed the game for the genre
  • Why the school fountain isn't technically the school's fountain
  • Steve's spot on and super sexy Fonz impression
  • All the carefully planned red herrings Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson crafted
  • Billy and Stu's descent into madness and how the duo changed the horror formula
  • Plans for the new Scream, also known as Scream 5

What's your favorite scary movie?

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  • Join the conversation on Facebook at www.facebook.com/happylifepod
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Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/happylifepod)

Show Notes Transcript Chapter Markers

The Steves discuss their favorite horror movie, Scream, as well as what is making them happy and Happy News.

Happy News and Updates:

  • Charisma Carpenter speaks out on Joss Whedon's horrific behavior on Buffy and gets support from her former castmates
  • Steve rediscovers his love of naps
  • Stephen is happy his audits are done at his day job

Binge and Purge:

  • Current X-Men Comics (Binging most, especially Hellions and Marauders, while Wolverine is an act of love to the line)
  • GLOW Season 3 (Network) - Binge- a beautiful ending to an amazing series
  • Fairy Potter... I mean Fate: The Winx Saga (Netflix)- Binge for Stephen; Purge/Watch series that did it better like Magicians and The Order first

Scream:

  • Movie background, production, and behind the scenes trivia
  • Breaking down the iconic Drew Barrymore opening scene and how it changed the game for the genre
  • Why the school fountain isn't technically the school's fountain
  • Steve's spot on and super sexy Fonz impression
  • All the carefully planned red herrings Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson crafted
  • Billy and Stu's descent into madness and how the duo changed the horror formula
  • Plans for the new Scream, also known as Scream 5

What's your favorite scary movie?

  • E-mail us at [email protected]
  • Join the conversation on Facebook at www.facebook.com/happylifepod
  • Don't forget to subscribe/follow here to get new episodes every Wednesday!

Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/happylifepod)

Steve:

Hello returning happies and new listeners. This is Steve Bennet-Martin, and

Stephen:

this is Stephen Martin-Bennet. And welcome to

Steve:

a lifetime of happiness. The podcast, where we take you on our journey through some of the movies, television shows, and other bits of pop culture, there are helping to keep us happy. We'll hopefully bring a smile to your face along the way. And

Stephen:

today we are all screamed for the 1996 classic that reinvented the horror genre. Scream.

Steve:

Yes, but first my love what's been making you happy. Well,

Stephen:

this post, you know, holidays getting into 2021 at work means that I'm getting ready for our annual accounting audit with our accountants. So they can do our taxes and everything like that. That is, that

Steve:

sounds very happy.

Stephen:

I'm getting to the happy. Okay. It's a lot of work to prepare for it and I'm very meticulous and I'm very organized with it all because. My theory is if they can find the answers that they want, it's easier for them, which makes them happier, which in the end makes me happier. But fast forward, the actual onsite audit was this week. It went well. It's all done. So yay. I'm happy.

Steve:

Yay. Yes. And I'm happy for you.

Stephen:

What is making you happy, darling?

Steve:

I would say naps. Math naps. Yes. Naps are making me happy. Naps are a habit that I, you know, I get into for awhile. On Sundays. And then I might go months without napping and I'm in the swing of napping on my Sundays again. And especially on my days off having that little afternoon nap to kind of recharge or in this case, it was a morning nap. I really liked it. It made me happy. So don't forget to nap on your days off, if you want an app,

Stephen:

Hey, it's all about self care. And if I could go back to my, you know, three, four or five-year-old self, especially in kindergarten during nap time and say. You're gonna regret missing out on these. Yes. I

Steve:

wish we had nap time at work. That would be awesome. If there were like 10 minutes or 20 minutes,

Stephen:

go take a nap. Whenever I was in Spain for a couple of weeks when I was younger the city we were in actually did have siestas where all the businesses shut down and everybody went, they might not have slept, but they at least went and laid down. Like it's totally a thing. Yeah. Oh, well, we

Steve:

should adopt that. I liked that idea. I do

Stephen:

too. But we have some happy news that on the surface might not sound happy, but trust me, it is. Yes,

Steve:

because it is cathartic. Whenever things come to light and we know that we've hinted in our previous Buffy episodes that Josh Whedon has been a problematic person in terms of his personal life and his approach to his job at times, and it kind of. Very recently this past week in mid-February kind of a charisma carpenter who played Cordelia on book Buffy and angel came forward with a statement on Twitter, kind of addressing and, you know, making multiple allegations about the horrible and traumatic way that he would treat her during filming across boats

Stephen:

or an especially whenever she was pregnant with her first child. And his first response was. Are you going to keep it?

Steve:

Yeah. And then calling her fat when she was a couple months. Yeah.

Stephen:

And, but it also turns out as we have heard that she was not the only one. Whether people came out with full descriptions of the allegations or just said, yes, this is true. And I support all the people. You had. Sarah, Michelle Gellar, you had Michelle Trachtenberg, you had Amber Benson, you had Claire Kramer, glory, glory. And so. You've got most of the entire female cast. And there was also James Marsters who plays spike recently, came out and said, yup.

Steve:

Well, he didn't say it was true in his statement. You kind of hinted that, you know, Maybe, but maybe not, which was more political, but I mean, especially, you know, Michelle Trachtenberg made comments that especially for her being a very young girl, that his comments were inappropriate. And I also liked that, you know, someone behind the scenes and someone who was a male also did speak out on it. Jose Molina, who is a Firefly writer, came out and said, you know, casually, cruel is a perfect way of describing Johs. And kind of said, like he was known for making mean comments that he thought were funny. And he didn't, you know, especially towards the female writers, he would make them cry during notes sessions. And think it was hysterical that he'd be making people cry. So it was a behavior that was also recognized, not just by the females that were, you know, impacted themselves, but also by the them, you know, other males around them. So I it's happy because it's coming to light and that these people can heal charisma. You know, it was very vocal and honest and raw and, or statement that, you know, she's been basically going through therapy ever since then. And this was, you know, over 20 years ago. And so. You know, hopefully this will be part of her healing on her journey. And I am very happy at the support that she got from all our castmates.

Stephen:

Yes. And this doesn't mean that with all this, that you have to stop enjoying Buffy or angel or Firefly or any of the other Wieden verse things. Yeah.

Steve:

I love the characters as well as the,

Stephen:

you know, everything. And it goes along with the whole turf ness of J K rallying with the Harry Potter series, you're going to have people that it will always enjoy those movies in those books and you're allowed to yeah,

Steve:

no matter what kind of horrible racist twat is.

Stephen:

Yeah. And well, transphobic more than anything else with her, but so. You know, we know that these people that have created things that we love are not good people, but it does not need to take away from your enjoyment of those fans.

Steve:

Yes. Onto happy, happy, happy we're

Stephen:

into binge and purge.

Steve:

Yes. And we're gonna, you know, something we've regularly binged every Wednesday, but we haven't touched on recently is the Koa stage and age of X-Men.

Stephen:

Yes. All of the X-Men comics release on Wednesdays that's new comic book day, for those that are. Orange comic book

Steve:

fans, as well as new episode day for us. So it's an awesome day. It was a

Stephen:

good day and we've really been enjoying the creative and fresh take that Jonathan Hickman has been giving to the X-Men and the really varied storylines, but that everything feels really connected.

Steve:

Yes, it certainly does. There are some that. You know, I would binge more than others. I've never been a Wolverine fan shocked of sack of all shocks, but like, so that's not one that I'm loving as much, but I am loving marauders, which I knew that, and I would love. And you just said properly. I know I was trying to really focus on it for the podcast. Cause if I just say it casually or without thinking too hard, it comes out more like more or. Murders. Yeah. Murders, but I'm doing better. Thanks to X-Men and that one as well as hellions, which was when I wasn't expecting to, like, I did

Stephen:

not think I was going to like it at all, because I love it. It's like declassify villain focused. Yes. And. It's hysterical. It's like the sit-com of the X-Men

Steve:

universe. And I mean, so many of the other arcs are very dark or, you know, very serious. And so having that where, you know, Mr. Sinister is leading a team and he's just fabulous. Yeah. And camp, and I love everything about him. It's just, it's great. So if you've, if you used to read the comics and you kind of stepped out for whatever reason,

Stephen:

Jumped back in with the house of X power of X is a 12 issue mini series. And it leads right into the Dawn of X with is, which is this new age. It's a perfect reset. Perfect. Jumping on point. It started in 2019. So yeah, I have some

Steve:

to binge through.

Stephen:

Yeah, you've got some to catch up on, but a Marvel unlimited will be your friend. Oh yeah. Unlimited. It's inexpensive in terms of the quality you get, because there's. Thousands upon thousands of issues there. And so go with that. One of the things I love that they're doing right now is that since that Dawn of X started, we have not had a team that actually refers to themselves as X-Men. We have a book called X-Men and the people in it are mutants that have been on X teams in the past, but the team themselves has not been called the X-Men. Over a year and a half, but that's about it. Yes,

Steve:

because we voted and we both did vote personally in the election.

Stephen:

So what's happening is the people of Krakatoa. All the mutants on Kirk Whoah are about to vote for who will be the first team of X-Men and they'll vote once a year. And the new lineup will be revealed at the hellfire gala this summer. And we got our tickets, we got our tickets for it. But the fun thing is Marvel decided, you know, what? The people that read the X-Men, you can choose who the last member of the team is. And you had people like Polaris and banshee and forge and Boehm and Cannonball. And it just a lot of really interesting people and Mauro X villain was on their armor. Who did you vote for?

Steve:

I voted for sunspot just because he's so funny. I voted

Stephen:

for armor. Just because I think she's ready to officially be in the big room. Yes,

Steve:

she certainly is

Stephen:

but for both of these next two things, they are a thumbs up from me

Steve:

and they're on Netflix, both of them as well. They are.

Stephen:

But, so we'll start with glow season three, which is the gorgeous ladies.

Steve:

Yes. And it is the final season and we were late to the game. But I'm glad that we finished the game because it was a great conclusion to the first two seasons. It really was.

Stephen:

I liked these characters a whole lot. They all had a lot of growth and a lot of change and it was definitely a dromedy.

Steve:

Yes, it certainly was. And the last season, I think, more than any, it was a drama more than the comedy at times, but it also was about. You know, making sure that these characters all had a great sendoff. I mean, I'm not sure whether they knew that it was last season. I did

Stephen:

not because they were actually already two episodes into filming season four, whenever the pandemic started and they, you know, everything was paused and Netflix was like, you know what, the next time we can get all these people back together, again is 2022. That will be a long time. Since the third season, we're not going to have the retention and it's not going to be worth the money. And so Netflix just decided to pull the plug and the now series finale, it works as a series finale because this is a show that I don't think was ever going to be tied up neatly. And so you have people. That are going to continue on with their lives in different ways. We just don't get to see it.

Steve:

I liked that there weren't any huge, like cliffhangers there, like, Oh no. Like you can easily finish each of these stories for yourself as to what the person's going through. Cause they, you know, we're all at a good S. You know, Coda. I agree. Yes. And so I would definitely say bench, and especially if you watch the first two seasons, if you haven't watched all three seasons even better because that first season, especially with,

Stephen:

yeah. It's nothing like you'd seen. And that's what Netflix is really good about. Is giving the green light to shows that you wouldn't see on other networks. Yes,

Steve:

exactly. Now going onto a show that you would see on another network processing, because it's been amazing. It's a very similar premise. We'll get to that. I don't want to spoil it, but it's fate, the winks saga on Netflix.

Stephen:

Now, see, I loved this. You were not as quick to warm up to it as I was

Steve:

for him up. I see what you did there with the fire fairy. But yes. Tell them, tell people what you loved

Stephen:

about it. So I have always like, because I love video games and a lot of video games you play. You have elemental characters and like the final fantasy games, you know, there's maybe the water crystal, the fire crystal, blah, blah, blah, or even an X-Men, you know, someone controls water. And so it's all there. And so this is kind of like, so they're all fairies. They all go to a boarding school to learn how to use their things. And each of them, whether it's a mind fairy earth, water electricity, fire light which in essence is also darkness. And they're all learning. And then there's also a group that don't have the powers and they're there as kind of like the muscle. Yeah. And The cast was really well cast. The stories did take a little bit to get going, but that's one of the things with the Netflix shows is that because they're released all at once. It's okay. If it takes a little bit to get going, because. Yeah. As long as you liked a little bit of it, just go on to the next

Steve:

one. Yes. And see. So while it's a pure binge for you, I would say that certainly add it to your watch list or your wishlist of things to watch. However, I, my reason there was nothing that I didn't like about it. It's just that there were so many other shows that I've watched that I feel like might've did it better or that I personally enjoyed more. So, you know, if you haven't watched the order or, you know, obviously the Harry Potter series or the magicians, if you haven't watched shadow Hunter, right. You know, it is a genre in itself right now, the whole, you know, teenager learns out, they have special powers and goes to a magical school and faces drama, but you know, they, they all have done it. Well, I just think that there are other ones that have done it better. So if it's a genre you love and you've watched everything that we've already said, and you're like, I need more and more. Then go watch it and you'll get more because it is

Stephen:

quite, and the way season one ended, I'm super excited for season two now, which I hope

Steve:

happens. I do too. Yes. So that is our binge and purge of what we've been bitching. Now I have a very important question for you as well as for all of our listeners.

Stephen:

What's your favorite scary movie? I don't know. Do you have a favorite?

Steve:

Yes, it's scream. It's that? It's this and what we just heard?

Stephen:

That's it. Oh, and it's so good. So yes, we chose screamed to cover this week. Darling, why don't you start with why you love screaming?

Steve:

It was the first horror movie where I was old enough to. Really understand what was happening and what I was watching and follow the plot well, but also to watch it in the full where I wasn't just catching it on TV and I wasn't catching sensor, it was the F you know, from the VHS box at Stephen house at a sleep over right around like the Halloween time. And he got it cause like one of his old, his older siblings, I believe, or his mom. You know, had rented it. And so we kind of like snuck in and watched it. And so I was in fourth grade, I believe, but I was also, I was very sheltered growing up. And so with that that was the first one that I really watched in full and that I remember, and I remember just falling in love with it. I was like, what am I watching? This is the best thing ever.

Stephen:

So I was in high school when it came out and I went on a date to see it, and I loved scary movies. And there hadn't been a lot of slasher flicks for a bit in the genre had kind of gone away. And there really weren't as many horror movies either

Steve:

from, I, I w wasn't watching them actively back then, but it seems like they were mostly to sequels of the franchises that started

Stephen:

to go. You weren't really hitting the theater as much anymore. And we w I was sitting there and. You could tell that this was changing the game funny side story. I, that I just remembered. So I was watching it and there was this guy and a girl in front of me and they were on a date as well. And the girl was like, this is so not believable. That would never happen. And he goes, and the boy was like, yeah, cut. And she goes, nobody's just gonna like flip and lose their mind and do this. And he goes, yeah. You never know what somebody's capable of. I could have a knife right now. I could stab you here. Him. Somebody might think it was part of the movie and she's like, ha, very funny. He goes, you never know what someone is dark inside of the machine. Stop it. What didn't you? You said it couldn't be real. I said, stop it. What now you think it could be real. And then she punched him in the arm and walked out and he's like, Hey babe. And walked after they did not come back yet. Say that

Steve:

sounds like a couple of that was, you know, destined for happily ever after. Sure. I mean, wow. Yeah. Yes. But it's also funny that he basically, you know, knew what was going to happen at the beginning of the SQL.

Stephen:

I know. Right. And that was like during, we had gotten past the first part of the movie and you were, then they were building up like, The story at that point,

Steve:

I'm surprised that you let them talk during the movie long enough for that to happen. Normally you'd be like, sit down, shut

Stephen:

up. I guess I hadn't gotten to that part of my personality yet. Okay. Okay.

Steve:

Yes. And so for, for those of you, not in the know, I am DB describes this as a year after the murder of her mother, a teenage girl is terrorized by a new killer who targets the girl and her friends by using horror films as part of a deadly game.

Stephen:

Which is actually better than what the back of the box said, if you were ever at the video store. And so it was all about someone has taken their love of horror movies to a new level. Now a group of friends have to bind bound or have to come together at a party to stop a killer before he does them all. And I was like, That's a lot of the movie

Steve:

at all. I was gonna say they were not even aware was happening most of them until it happened, like in terms of that they were being actively pursued. Yes. And so it was directed by the famous West Craven,

Stephen:

Who has done so many wonderful things. Like. I make Marilyn Elm street. Yes.

Steve:

And so he's very used to the genre as well as writer, Kevin Williamson, who I knew one of his other titles during my research, which was teaching Mrs. Tingle, which was a very nice thriller as

Stephen:

well. Right. The teaching Mrs. Tingle was definitely not what you would expect in terms of movies as well. Especially you had. An interesting cast and Helen Mirren for that much who wasn't known to be in a movie like that. I mean, she was prim and proper and Helen Mirren and, but I mean, he also created the vampire diaries. So it's got a, he had a lot of, Oh, and what he's most famous for besides scream. Is Dawson's Creek.

Steve:

Yes. I wouldn't have known

Stephen:

that. No. So Kevin Williamson is just kind of. A little, all over the place with his

Steve:

genres. Yes. And in addition to these brilliant minds, it is pro the produced by dimension films. So we want to thank them in advance for the clips that we borrowed from the movie that we might've shortened, even from the original content to help display our love of the movie. Yes.

Stephen:

Because it's all about our love of this amazing movie, which was made on a pretty cheap budget. It was 14 to $15 million. And the box office was 173 million, which like. Now you think of it, you're like, Oh yeah, they were going to strike gold, but they didn't know.

Steve:

Well, like they were confident going into it. It seems because they went into like a script bidding war over this script, which Kevin wrote in a weekend along with two, five page outlines of what scream two and scream stage three would be about in broad strokes. And so it was some sort of bidding worse. So I do think that the people who were hearing about a kind of knew that they had gold in their hands.

Stephen:

And I like, as soon as I remember when the first trailers were coming on and then nev Campbell was on the Rosie O'Donnell show, promoting the film. And the clip that they showed was when Sid got the first call at her house while she was waiting for Tatum. And the clip showed her on the phone with him. And she goes, well then where are you? And the voice says, I'm right here. And the clip stopped. And everyone in the Rosie O'Donnell audience went because they were waiting for it and it just stopped. And Rosie was like, Oh, that was good. And nev said, yeah, you're going to have to go see it. If you want to see what happens next. And I was sold. From that clip that she showed on

Steve:

Rosa, I can imagine. I mean, with it, we all know that it was, are many people know that it was originally going to be titled scary movie and it was changed by the studio to screen, which I think was a good choice, but it's funny. Cause it's parody later on is called scary movies. Yes, but did you know before we were doing our research, that it was actually inspired by a real serial killer? I did not know that. Yes. It's by the Gainesville ripper because of course it's Florida, Florida, man. Yes, Florida, man, Danny rolling. Back in late August of 1990, went on a murder spree of murdering five students over four days. And so when the when the writer can, when Kevin Williamson heard about it, that's what kind of inspired him as, you know, someone who just snaps and kills a whole bunch of teenagers in a very short period of time.

Stephen:

And he wasn't even their high school teacher.

Steve:

No, not at all. So, in addition to the brilliant nev Campbell, who you mentioned, that also has a couple other names that you might know too, right? Just a couple.

Stephen:

I mean, you've got. Courtney Cox David Arquette, drew Barrymore, Matthew Lillard, skeet Ulrich, Jamie Kennedy and Rose McGowan, all names that everybody

Steve:

knows exactly. And I knew all of them by name like, well now I do. And that's not something I can say for a lot of movies, even the ones that I love, every single one of them, the fact that I was like, I know them from also that, or the other thing. Yeah. So, and it's funny because leading up to it and all the promotions drew Barrymore seemed like she was going to be one of the main characters and one of the final girls,

Stephen:

all the pictures in all the movie posters had drew front and center. And but what is also interesting in all the movies, David Arquette gets top billing. Oh.

Steve:

Cause it was he the most well-known

Stephen:

he was the most well-known of everybody at the time, even though. Friends what's happening. David Arquette was still the bigger name. Yeah. So I thought that was definitely, but yeah, that was interesting, but yeah, all the, the previews and everything, it was definitely, they were banking on Drew's popularity. I even had a friend in high school that only went to see this movie because drew Barrymore was in it. And after seeing one, she made her boyfriend leave. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

Steve:

I could, I couldn't, I'd be like, all right, bye, babe. I'm going to finish this movie because I mean, I can understand that while she wasn't the final girl. Yeah. That picture of her in that white sweater, like holding the phone in her hands, in that house. Like that picture is, you know, you, what you think of when you think of scream is, you know, those calls and that kind of murder scene is so iconic mostly. Cause I mean, it was really the first movie that I ever saw horror movies

Stephen:

existed. Well, yes. And because in a lot of other scary movies, like nightmare on Elm street, Friday the 13th They don't acknowledge that horror movies are a thing and where our cast has grown up on horror movies. And so that was a learning lesson for them. The movie starts off with one of, if not, the most iconic scene in horror movies that you like. Of modern horror movies, because I don't want to take anything away from classic ones, like the Exorcist, the bedroom scene and stuff like that, but like of modern things, drew, Barrymore's opening with this as Casey backer in the house by herself. And you played the clip for it whenever she first gets the call and it, this movie is also what started the. Pre credits, opening kill.

Steve:

Yes. Which it becomes such a huge thing. That it's a way it's made aware in the future iterations like screen four, where it had multiple

Stephen:

beginnings, but now you go to see a horror movie and you're almost you expect, okay. Whoever we're seeing right here is going to die because this is. The lead up kill. Yes.

Steve:

And so, I mean, I love that for me and I can see how this is something that starts it. But one thing that I really like, especially after listening to the commentary is how purposeful they were with even using the popcorn is kind of the timer of showing how. The tension escalates from just, you know, a slow pop to literally a faster pop. I mean, as we played in the first clip, you know, it's just like you could tell it's just, she's just putting it on the Yes. And then, I mean, right around the time that she hangs up on him and he calls back and you realize it's not just a prank, I mean, you even have this then

Stephen:

you're hanging up on me again. I'll catch you like a fish. Understand it? Yeah. Yeah. So right then and there, I remember. That I got full body cold chills, because this changed the

Steve:

game. Yeah. And you don't hear, you know, the killers talking to the victims like that. Normally either from what I had heard, like, nothing like that ever before, and just, just the turn from thinking, it was some sort of prank caller to just she's gonna die. Yeah.

Stephen:

And like, at that point, I think that was the moment where I was like, Oh, I don't think Drew's going to make it out of this. Yeah, because before it was, I don't know. I was even thinking when I was first watching it. Oh, this is setting it up. That like, this'll be the killer going forward, but it was there that I was like, Oh no, this is about to be a thing. This is going to be a scene. And we go into this five to 10 minute. Chase scene of utter panic as well as the first time the killer plays a. Horror guessing game with our

Steve:

victim. Yes. Where she loses her boyfriend. But during that scene, especially when she really just starts losing her mind as she sees that the stakes are death. Yeah. And like that her boyfriend is dead. You know, that level of trauma was something that West Craven made her do over and over and over again in that performance together. Right.

Stephen:

Not to the level of like the shining with. The poor battered wife that had to do that staircase scene 157 times. No,

Steve:

she didn't have to leave acting because she was traumatized. Right? Like, but the way that he did it, actually, because drew Barrymore is such an animal lover that one of their first interactions. But for this movie, she mentioned that there was a story on the news that she heard about. An owner who set their dog on fire, but as they were staying at, which I would be horrified as well, of course, but it was, she was crying as she was telling him. And so later on while they were filming, he'd be like, I'm going to go grab the lighter. And that would just set her off to this place, which I can understand why, but I just love how she was willing to go there. And he was willing to take her there. And then it was this like level of trust that was really something special in this scene and

Stephen:

the violence. And stuff that was it. Even in this first scene, wasn't something that. You were used to in horror movies at that point? No.

Steve:

I mean, not only the physical violence of just it being such a graphic long, drawn out fight scene when oftentimes, you know, it's more of a psychological buildup and then you have the money shot at the end, so to speak. Yeah. But you know, with this, it was, you know, she gets slashed, she gets. She's being drug along the floor. I needed the fact that like, her parents are hearing her die as she's being strung along. It's just something that I don't remember seeing in any of the, you know, nightmare on Elm streets or Jason's or anything

Stephen:

like that before poor Tina got thrown around the ceiling and the first nightmare on Elm street. But. I don't know, vis felt more visceral,

Steve:

certainly did. And that was right around the time where there was a clip as well or a nod to horror movies of the past. With the go to the McKenzie

Stephen:

to go to the McKinsey. So yeah, the parents realize something is going on. They get in the house that popcorn was on fire. And the husband's like get in the car and drive down to the McKinseys, which is a nod back to 1970 eights, Halloween movie, and also H2O. Because Jamie Lee Curtis tells the kids. Go run down to the McKinseys and call for help. And so it's kind of a nice nod back to like those poor McKinsey's. They were. They're always

Steve:

hassled about all of their neighbors problems and they can't move to a neighborhood where there's not murders left and right. I mean, at this point, maybe they're part of the problem, whether

Stephen:

they live in the middle of nowhere near a boarding school or on a suburban street that Mackenzie's are always bothered with kids knocking on the door. Yeah.

Steve:

Yes. And so, but I mean, that's one thing that I like is there multiple knots to different horror movies throughout this entire movie and yeah. You know, that's what kind of makes it a parody is, you know, I consider him as more of an Amash because it's done so lovingly rather than teasingly or add the other, his expenses. But it certainly is not only self-aware in the way that they talk about the movies, but also just the genre awareness of the movies that it's based on being also subtly referenced.

Stephen:

Yes. And like at that point, the only character that we had really been introduced to is now gone. So now it's time for us to meet. Who's actually going to be starring in the film and they do a really good job out by the fountain of introducing the male and female characters, getting a sense of their personalities and things.

Steve:

Yep. You got to meet Sydney and all of her friends, you have You have Sydney and all of her friends talking by the fountain and who were her friends,

Stephen:

babe? Yeah, you've got Tatum and you've got Stu and you've got Billy and Oh, I'm totally forgetting. Randy, the horror movie fan. And so you've got the five of them out there.

Steve:

I found out during our research that the reason why it's out at the fountain rather than being filmed inside of the school is because the school didn't want to have students being portrayed in their hallways, talking the way that these students were talking outside at the fountain about the death. You know about how they were gutted or about how they were hurt or injured, that it was all like, they were like, you can't talk that way about the dead. That's just not something that we can have done on our school grounds.

Stephen:

How do

Steve:

you feel about that? Well, I think that the school board were all fucking cowards and ass hats, babe,

Stephen:

hey, it's called tact. You fuck rag. Yeah, it's called tact,

Steve:

babe. Yes. I know that you love that line so

Stephen:

much. I do love that line so much. I used to use that on Ronnie in college because I would always say that Ronnie was about as subtle as a trainer. Yeah.

Steve:

All right. Excellent. Well then speaking of being accurate, when we move on to Sydney later on that night at home, she gets targeted by the killer,

Stephen:

which is the clip that I was talking about from Rosie, where she gets the first call. And you realize that this is now setting Sydney up as the potential new lead, but then in the back of my head, seeing it for the first time, you're like, Are they doing? They're just killing off everybody as you meet them.

Steve:

Yes. I mean, one thing with this scene that really spoke to me though, is that, you know, at first the killer, you know, while drew Barrymore was kind of flirty and she is like, I'm having none of this, Randy costuming, it was Randy. Right. But then she's also not a very big fan of horror movies as we hear. Yes. What's your favorite scary movie? Come on. You know, I don't watch that shit. Why not to scare.

Stephen:

No, no, it's just, what's the point. They're all the same, some stupid killers, docking, some big breasted girls who can't act was always running up the stairs when she should be going out the front door. It's insulting. Are you alone in the house,

Steve:

Mandy? That's right.

Stephen:

She is smart and Neff Campbell can act. So that is a difference, but there is a point where she's supposed to be going out the front door front door's locked. She can't get out. So she does go up. Yes,

Steve:

she does everything almost in that next chase scene that she's just said she's not supposed to do, but it does end up with her thinking that it's Billy, she ends up fingering him to the police, not the way that he wanted her to finger him.

Stephen:

Yes. And But what's really interesting is Sydney immediately comes off as intelligent and resourceful, resourceful door, the door thing with her bedroom, that if the closet doors open, the bedroom door, can't open all the way. Yeah.

Steve:

And that was in the script, but they actually had to build that for that set or for that house, because they could not find that naturally built in Northwest in California.

Stephen:

And w it's really. Interesting when that happens, because she's chasing, she's about to get totally caught by him and then gets in her bedroom and she's safe and he goes away and then Billy comes through the window and the cell phone traps and the cell phone drops. And she,

Steve:

I love that. That was suspicious back then, because why would he have a cell phone?

Stephen:

Because that's a whole question. Like why do you have a solar phone? And nowadays. The question you asked people is like, you don't have a cell phone. Yeah.

Steve:

I was gonna say, if you had, you know, a high school student who doesn't have a cell phone at that point, you'd be like, where is it? And like, you'd be guilty for not having it. Where did you lose it? What happened to it? Not why do you have one that's suspicious.

Stephen:

There's whenever Sydney runs away from Billy at that point runs down the stairs, opens the front door. Do we, is there holding up the mask, but the way he's holding it right at the door, it looks like Sydney's run right out into the killer and the audience scream, Sidney screams, do he screams? And, but it's a kind of, it's really cathartic the way they do it. Because at that moment then you realize that. You're safe again. And so after the audience screamed, everyone kind of giggles it themselves for yeah. Cause you got to take a breath, you get to take a breath. And I w West Craven is really good about that. Giving the audience time to take a

Steve:

breath. Yes. I like that. And that's one thing with you know, deputy Dewey. I know that West and the team really went out of their way to make sure that everyone was always a suspect, but I almost thought that he was too like silly. Or like, like to do fee almost to, to really be the killer. Did you consider him a suspect your first

Stephen:

time through only early on like whenever after this scene Sid was supposed to go over to Tatum's house to spend the night. And so Tatum does take her over there. Do we use Tatum's big brother for those, if you haven't seen the movie craziness, go do it. Yeah. And so. Tatum's mom comes in to said, you have a call. And she's like, is my dad? No, honey, I'm not sure who it is. And so Sydney goes out to answer the phone. It's the killer. And she screams, everybody comes out the phone call ends, and then do he shows up. And so it's more about at that moment. Well, why didn't he come sooner? Shouldn't he have heard the scream. And so his delayed entry into the room was suspicious.

Steve:

Yes. Turns out he was just masturbated. I don't

Stephen:

think that was it either. He was probably,

Steve:

he was out of breath. I mean, he was doing something fully cleaning his gun. Yes, exactly. That's what I said.

Stephen:

But then this is some of the first times where you get to see Tatum and Sydney interact more. And Rose McGowan plays Tatum around everybody else as harder and kind of bad-ass, but her room is your typical girly girl room. And she even like, was wearing pigtails to bed and like, hold on

Steve:

stuff, talking to her mom like mom, thanks mommy.

Stephen:

Like this movie does a really good job of exploring. Characters that aren't the star, because sometimes in horror movies, you don't get a lot of character development if you're not

Steve:

a leader. Yeah. They're just spotter at that point or stereotypes that are just pure stereotypes. But to have the nuance to the characters is something that I think Wes, especially as known

Stephen:

and Kevin Williamson script, did a really great job of fleshing out. Everyone honestly.

Steve:

Yes, exactly. And so with that, Cindy and Gail have their first main con website. I

Stephen:

love you mean Gayle, my favorite character in the screen franchise.

Steve:

Yeah, exactly. Because you love your strong, powerful bad-ass women. And at that point, though, Sydney's on was just as powerful when Gail, you know, gives her the, I'll send you a copy of the book line and then Sydney punches her in the face. Yeah.

Stephen:

Gail is a newspaper reporter who. Wrote the book about the murder that happened a year ago of Sydney's mom by allegedly cotton weary and Galen, Sidney have kind of been antagonistic to each other. Gail doesn't really care because Gail feels like she's telling the truth. Sydney feels like it was all lies. So she holds a big grudge. Against Gail and Gail was like, I'm just doing my job. Gail's a hard ass. And is just searching for that big story. That's going to get her

Steve:

Pulitzer. Exactly. I mean, the very idea that this could be a story that linked back to her book and that the killer went free in that like her man is actually innocent. Got her so excited.

Stephen:

An innocent man on death row, a killer still on the loose. Kenny, tell me I'm dreaming. I'm right about this, I could save a man's life. Do you know what that can do for my book sales? So I love that you your for a second, you're thinking. Oh, how altruistic. And then you realize, again, it's just about that. The,

Steve:

the book sales. Yes. But she was, I believe the first go around supposed to also be one of the suspects

Stephen:

and I never, ever got that from her in this movie. At all. Yes, but this was such a turn for Courtney Cox because she was Rachel, you know, the OCD best friend on friends and she Rachel, sorry, she was not, she was

Steve:

Monica, as I said, I'm not a friends' fanatic, but even I was like,

Stephen:

that's Monica Sarkis. She was OCD, Monica on friends. And so this was definitely a different type of character for her. But this has also been, was good for her career because it opened up post friends, things where she could play. Just stronger, harder Bennis, like on dirt. Yes.

Steve:

Oh, I loved her in dirt. Yeah. Yes. And so, you know, with that, what other were some suspects did you have during your first go through? Cause they did go out of their way to make sure that there were plenty of suspects.

Stephen:

Yeah. So I did of course suspect Billy. I originally suspected Dewey and then I realized No, he, it just doesn't work for him and his character. And it was the scene where do we take them and Sydney we're heading out to do some shopping and they had that first conversation about who would you, who would play you in a horror movie? And And he was like, I see you as a young Meg Ryan. And it was like, no, that's, that's earnest. That's heartfelt. Like he sees her as a little sister. It's not Dewey that. Right. Then he took, I took him off my list. The sheriff. Yes. Because they go out of their way to show that as he stubs out a cigarette with his shoe, that it's the same boot that the killer was seen wearing. Yeah.

Steve:

And that was conscious, like, as many of these leads were having Dewey leave at certain times, or show up or different characters be available to be the suspects. But, and in addition to having these red herrings, the first time through what also makes them even more intelligent is on your own. Ray watches that you can also see all the little hints that it was, you know, Billy and Stu all along, working together. And that, that also still sets up where, like, there was always, you can almost figure out rewatching it who killed who and how it was done without them ever going through it, kill by kill, which is something a lot of future movies are guilty of when they do something. Similar as they have to be like, look at how smart I am. I made it all work at the end, by showing you blow by blow how it was them. They didn't even do that. They were like, no, it was us all along. But when you rewatch it, you're like, yeah. Well, yeah.

Stephen:

And like the try to lead you to think, well, the two guys try to lead you to think that it's Sydney's dad and. You know, and their plan, their plan, and certain other people talk about it. So it puts the idea in your head, but I honestly never did think it was the dad either. I don't know. There were so many things and I also started to think, well, what if it's somebody we don't know? Yeah.

Steve:

I, I didn't, I ha I had hoped that it wouldn't be like that, but I knew it was a possibility, but I also thought it was Randy until he got drunk. Do you

Stephen:

know What movie actually doesn't show the killer until the end. You've never seen her in the movie. Right? The original Friday, the 13th. You don't ever see Jason smile. You never see Mrs. Vorhees until she's like, it was me and this is the reason I did it. And she actually asked the director to have her in the diner scene at the beginning and make her look over at the people. And he didn't do it. And so they set up and so when it's great, where Mrs. Vorhees is the original killer, and it's not something you'd expect because there was no sense and up for

Steve:

it. Yeah. But yes, I love the shock though, of two killers, because that's something that was also unique at the time as well, correct.

Stephen:

100%. And nowadays your first thought is, okay, there has to be two killers.

Steve:

Yes. Now, before we got to the big party where the death count really starts to rack up. Unfortunately, the funds dies. I mean, the principal

Stephen:

dies. Yes, principal Hembrey. And like, you know, It's also a very different role for Henry Winkler at this point. Most people know him from the Fonz and you do a spot on impersonation

Steve:

and maybe you don't do a spot on a person. Okay. Well, I'm also waving my thumbs up, like right around my ears down by my hips as well. So I did that once for you, cause I was a little rusty and what it actually looked like, and you lost your mind so much. The funds now. Always, always.

Stephen:

Yes, but it's a really great scene where you actually get to see Wes Craven and he's dressed as Freddy Krueger as a janitor, which is a fun

Steve:

little nod. Yes, exactly. So with school suspended, those Stu hosts a party, which was very nice of him.

Stephen:

And because with all horror movies, there are things you have to do. You have to set up your characters, you have to set up the, kind of how the kills are going to be happening. Like this is all knives usually. And then you have to gather all of your cast. Into one location, and then you have to find a way to get all the extraneous people away. So you're down to your core cast and can start killing

Steve:

them off. Yes. And they did it brilliantly here. I mean, there was a very surprise, surprising death. A couple of them during this scene, but did you actually have high school parties like this? Cause that was one thing that like, I was so excited for watching as a fourth grader. I'm like when I get to high school, I get to go to parties like this. I was a giant loser who never went to a single party like that until like maybe prom was kind of like that.

Stephen:

So there were definitely some that people would have, and you would have. 20, some people there, I always had an into school party where there were, you know, 20 to 30 people at, and we did it as like a pool party with volleyball and our cookout was there, like

Steve:

drinking sex and

Stephen:

partying. And it was at mom and dad's house.

Steve:

Exactly. So like, that's what I mean, like were there like crazy, crazy unsupervised parties? Not really kids could just go loose because school was out. Like, I, I just, I think that that's something that happens in the movies, but if this happened to you in real life, listeners definitely let us know your stories about it, because this is similar to like the whole prom idea of, do you have problems that are like the movies? Oh God.

Stephen:

Like nobody except probably at really expensive private schools. Do they have problems that look like they're out of

Steve:

movies? Yes. But in terms of another iconic death, I've never looked at doggy doors. The same ever again, after a while, Ching this movie, I do, I see any sort of pet door anywhere, and I'm like, don't crawl through it girl.

Stephen:

And as shocking as drew Barrymore's death was in the beginning, by this point in the movie, you're over it and you've forgotten about it. And this is a character that I didn't think was going to die. Yeah. Yeah.

Steve:

I'm the best friend you think is going to be the best friend in the sequel.

Stephen:

Yeah. Like I did not expect her to die. It was a great. Chase scene in the garage, she picks up a fight. She does. And she actually doesn't think at first that it's the killer. She thinks that somebody's messing with her and she does the whole Mr. Ghost face. I'm going to be in the sequel.

Steve:

And that's when she was so self-aware to say that I was just like, Oh

Stephen:

yeah. And because I automatically assumed she would be in the SQL, I fought. She would be one of the survivors, people that I didn't think would survive. Randy, I never thought he was going to make fries. Yeah. I figured Dewey would die. Yep. And I figured Courtney Cox would be killed off, but she would be the last one killed off. Gotcha. Because she was such a big name.

Steve:

Yeah. I mean, I really liked the way that it worked out the survivors, because it did

Stephen:

well, well, like originally when you were watching it, who did you think was gonna make it through?

Steve:

I thought it was going to be Tatum and said, and I thought it was gonna be, I thought the boyfriend was going to die. I thought he was gonna die, but I don't, I don't know who else I thought was going to survive. Maybe. I don't know. I hadn't. I was, you know, of course in horror movies, part of you also wants more people to die than anything. Right,

Stephen:

but you have to wait for sequels where the body count is always

Steve:

higher. Yes. And speaking of roles like that at the party, Randy does a great job of breaking down what all the rules are like Jesus Christ. She don't know any nice,

Stephen:

have an aneurysm. Why don't ya? There are certain rules that one wants to bide by, in order to successfully survive a horror movie. For instance, number one. You can never have sex

Steve:

yes.

Stephen:

Okay. Number two, you can never drink or do drugs. sin. It's an extension of number one and number three, never, ever, ever under any circumstances say I'll be right back because you won't be back. I'm getting another beer. You want one? Yeah, sure. I'll be right back. So I love that so much because again, this is a movie that is very self-aware and. I love that there, you know, we've seen things like prom night and Halloween, and they're saying, you know, we love it too. And here's how, if you want to survive this, but even at that point, Randy doesn't realize that he's an

Steve:

yeah. Correct. And so, and that's something though that, you know, the rules are important, but they're also important in this movie because it's when they're broken. Because we're being led to believe at this point like that, you know, cause this is right around the time that Sid is losing her virginity to Billy who ends up being the killer, which you also, at that point, I'm like once she gave it up to him, like a he's innocent and B she's going to die or like she's at least possible like that it was possible. While at that point beforehand, I was like, well, she's the Virgin. She'll be fine. Yeah. Second, she lost her virginity. I was like, Oh no girl walks out. And it's because they set up these rules and these rules really were true beforehand with these stereotypes. I would say that I was pretty safe for the longest time, until other than maybe saying I'll be right back.

Stephen:

Well. And because if you look at Jamie Lee Curtis in Halloween and Halloween too, she was the good girl. Yeah. And had not had sex yet. And we found the car. Which is probably why she got knifed in the shoulder. But yeah, one of the great things about that scene is after they've had sex and Sydney's coming back to being Sidney again, she's like, you know, who was your call too? And he's like, Oh my dad. And she's like, no, no, no, the sheriff called your dad. And he's like, yeah, I didn't get through. And you kind of have this thing of. Oh, damn. You just gave up your virginity to the killer and then 10 seconds later, he gets stabbed, stabbed in the back and you, or he gets stabbed in the front because he's turned around and then he turns around and he's bleeding. He's like Sydney. And then there's a really, really great chase scene. But at that moment I sat there and I was like, I was wrong. Yeah. Oh my God. Now I don't know who it is because I, in my mind, until that point I was full team, Billy the killer. Yeah. And then that scene, I, I, it threw it all out the window and I had no idea where to go from there. Yeah. Cause at

Steve:

that point, I mean, we're running out of suspects and like, at that point, I think like the moment he died, I thought that it was due. So I wasn't surprised when it was Stu like, but that was like moments later. We're like very soon afterwards, but the fact that it was the two of them together just kind of blew my mind. So,

Stephen:

and one of the things on rewatching that I didn't get the first time that, and I don't know how they would've made it any better is that Stu goes through another half hour at the party without caring where Tatum is and somebody finally as, as everybody, but the main cast is leaving. Says where's Tatum. And he says she probably got pissed at me and bailed and I'm like, and it's only on rewatch is where you're like, yeah, he should have been looking for her by now. That's the most obvious thing on the re watches to me. Well

Steve:

that, and at the fountain, like right after we had the scene about tuck hall tax, the way he was talking about and the way he was glorifying, like, well, you know, it takes a real man, a woman couldn't do it. It takes a real man to just penetrate someone with a knife. And I'm like, well, great. It's a penis metaphor.

Stephen:

Well, and, but also that rewatch whenever Billy says. Nobody said it was you and gives him a look and Sue's like, thanks, buddy. Yeah. And it's one of those things that on the rewatch is you see that he's giving him the shut up, look with his eyes.

Steve:

Yes. And it led to some great ad-libbing to it. But you know, it also made sure that they wanted to let people know as a movie that wasn't, you know, because of movies, don't blame the movies. Exactly.

Stephen:

Don't you blame the movies, movies don't create cycles, movies make cycles anymore.

Steve:

Yeah. So, so things like woozy, like I'm feeling a little bit woozy here as well as,

Stephen:

Call the police That's honestly, the worst thing is great, but the mom and dad are going to be so mad at me

Steve:

is my favorite. Yeah. And I mean, I remember the adrenaline that I had running through me watching this movie and I just couldn't blink the first time through because you're watching them both like descendant to madness in a way that you don't want. See normal people normally, do you, even in movies, you know, killers are typically like there at one note the entire time, whether it's the killers that are always at a 10 or the ones that are almost scary, because they're always at a two, but like the fact that they would build, like, as they were losing it. Oh. And

Stephen:

Billy got to like an 11 at that point, whenever she had gotten away. And because Gail would come in, distracted them. She had forgot to have take the safety off. Cause at first he thought Gail saves the day and then Gail gets knocked out and lands on top of deputy Dewey who had been stabbed in the back. Yeah. They had

to

Steve:

redo that so many times because they kept on giggling when she fell on him. I

Stephen:

just, I love that. It's also where they fell in love. I know. And I think that that's awesome too, especially that you can see. As the movie goes along at first, she's definitely using him. But at the party it definitely becomes a thing where she's kind of enamored by him. Yes,

Steve:

certainly. And I love that they both survived so they can continue on with that in the future movies.

Stephen:

Yeah. Like, and so as we were saying, Stu goes crazy. And, or Billy is even crazier. Stew's bleeding out at this point and you're wondering if he's even gonna make it. And then Sydney dressed as ghost face pops out. And stabs Billy with an umbrella and he goes down, Stu regaining strength comes out of nowhere and they fight and she pushes a TV down on his head. That's it? Yeah.

Steve:

Which is awesome. But I mean, just the physicality of this fight scene is also just so well choreographed. Yeah. Yeah.

Stephen:

Like there was, it was very, very physical, like bar

Steve:

fight almost. Yeah.

Stephen:

And then, you know, Billy comes back. Gun doesn't have a safety on this time and it's just really, really well done. And at that point, you think you have four survivors of Sidney, Randy. Gail. And Sid's dad who the guys were planning to frame frame

Steve:

at on the whole. Yes. But they made sure to include someone being carted off in the ambulance. Yep.

Stephen:

They shot one last thing where Dewey is alive being put into the ambulance and he's like Gayle, Gayle, and she's too busy do filming the. Seeing that will make her a star.

Steve:

Yeah. And one thing that I it's kind of like at the very end that they don't typically do a lot in the genre, especially knowing they were planning for a scream tour, scream three, as they did kind of leave the ending though, full story wrapped up without doing that kind of thing. At the end, is the killer still there? Or like it did someone survive or like, is there another person? And

Stephen:

they shot him right. Between the eyes. Exactly.

Steve:

So, but like they, they left it where it was full red, fully wrapped up and they didn't have that final scare like they do in so many other movies. So I kind of liked that because you really do feel like it was over

Stephen:

the final scare. Cause they even say, you know, careful, this is when the killer comes back for a final scare. Billy leans up and Sid shoots him between the eyes and she goes, Not in my movie. And then you think it's over. And Sid's dad comes out of the closet and all the characters scream and in the audience, when we saw it, that's a good jump scare because you did for a second, think it was over. And when Sid's dad crashes out of the closet, you do jump and

Steve:

scream. Yeah. Yeah. And then that's the type of scream that, that leaves you with a giggle. So that's how they end it, which was very well-crafted. Yes. Yes. But there were not just one sequel, but a few sequels. Now we are getting ready for screen Fiverr.

Stephen:

It's just called scream now, like they did the, it's kind of like Halloween 2018 is just Halloween. This one is just called well, cause I

Steve:

thought in some of the artwork though, the S kind of looks like a five. So I was also reading as kind of five cream. Now it's

Stephen:

just scream.

Steve:

Okay. Well, scream will be the fifth movie in the screen franchise. And they're also as a screen TV series that went through so many different kinds of deaths that had its own kill count by the end of the, I think three seasons that took five years or

Stephen:

six years. Yeah. But those are unrelated. Yup. And. Not in the same universe as the movies. Yes. No, there is no Sydney Prescott in the TV series universe. Yes. And I'm excited for the new scream because the directors and the cast the directors. Themselves.

Steve:

Yeah, it's going to be the first one, not directed by West Craven because he passed away in 2015, but nev Campbell, Courtney Cox, David Arquette are all coming back from this movie as well as ones that were screened for like Roger L. Jackson and Marley Shelton who are coming back with their original roles as well. But

Stephen:

the thing that really got me excited is that it's being directed by Matt. Baton Nelly open and Tyler Gallet who did ready or not, which was one of my favorite horses because of the past

Steve:

few years. That was awesome too, because it was so creative. Yes.

Stephen:

And they, Kevin Williamson, you know, created the characters and everything, but I'm excited to see where some of the new actors come in and that's where we've got some new people like Jack Quaid. Who I'm guessing is probably related to Dennis Quaid. I could be wrong, but that's not a very common name. Melissa Barrera, Jenny Ortega, Mason, Goodling Jasmine Savoy Brown and Dylan Mannette. And like some of these people, if you actually go to IMD B, you're going to recognize them.

Steve:

Even

Stephen:

if you don't know their names, like Dylan Manette was in don't breathe. The horror movie, where they went. Into that blind guy's house to steal money that I thought was, that was good.

Steve:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so filming is already wrapped. It went from September to November of 2020. So you can Mark your calendars right now that if there's no delays, which I know from my work life, oftentimes there can be it should be released on January 14th of 2022 by paramount pictures.

Stephen:

And so 2021 is going to be really good for. Horror movies because we have the next in the Halloween series with Halloween kills. We also have the next in the conjuring series this year of the main line, not one of the spinoffs. It's conjuring three. Yes. Nice. And so it's nice to know that we're going to be, be finishing 2021 with two horror movies. And then right at the first of the year in 2022, We get screamed five. Yes.

Steve:

And so we want to also hear what your favorite scary movie is, so that we can get some ideas of what you might want to hear in few traps. So it's, so

Stephen:

tell us, what's your favorite

Steve:

scary movie? Yes, you can do that by emailing [email protected]

Stephen:

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